CIA Two Torture Contractors: "Experts" Who Never Conducted an Interrogation
(their story will not go away, and rightly so)
GOP Choice to Conduct Interrogations
All the Cleaning in the World Can't Erase the Stain
Former FBI Supervisory Special Agent
(the man who first broke Abu Zubaydah)
First watch this 22-minute interview of Mr. Soufan to gain extensive background (if any is needed at this point). It can be seen here.
2nd Update related to the 1st Update next:
Three to Leave Jobs
Over Psychologists’ Involvement in Bush-Era Interrogations
WASHINGTON — The nation’s largest professional organization for psychologists announced a management shake-up on Tuesday. The action came days after a scathing report concluded that top officials of the group had colluded with government officials during the George W. Bush administration to assure that the organization’s ethics rules did not bar psychologists from involvement in harsh interrogations about terrorist activity. The board of the organization, the American Psychological Association, said that three top officials, including the chief executive, Norman Anderson, were leaving the group. Another senior official was forced out last week, just before the report on the group’s involvement with the Bush-era interrogations was released. All of the officials who are leaving the organization were named in the 542-page report.
The report, the result of a seven-month investigation by David Hoffman, a Chicago lawyer, broadly examined the role of psychologists in the Bush-era interrogation programs conducted by the Central Intelligence Agency and the Pentagon.
1st Update: Major and Significant — Three Related Articles (July 13, 2015):
1. U.S. “torture doctors”
could face charges after report alleges post-9/11 collusion | July 10, 2015: The largest association of
psychologists in the United States is on the brink of a crisis, the Guardian
has learned, as an independent review prepares to reveal that medical
professionals lied and covered up their extensive involvement in post-9/11
torture. The revelation, puncturing years of denials, creates the potential for
leadership firings, loss of licenses and even prosecutions. For more than a
decade, the American Psychological Association (APA) has maintained that a
strict code of ethics prohibits its more than 130,000 members to aid in the
torture of war detainees/or “prisoners” while simultaneously permitting
involvement in military and intelligence interrogations. The group has rejected
media reporting on psychologists’ complicity in torture; suppressed internal
dissent from anti-torture doctors; cleared members of wrongdoing; and portrayed
itself as a consistent ally against abuse. Now, a voluminous independent review
conducted by a former assistant US attorney, David Hoffman, is said to
undermine the APA's denials in full -- and vindicate the dissenters.
2. Former chair of Oregon Health & Science University
psychology department worked with CIA on torture - report | July 11, 2015: A prominent retired Oregon
Health & Science University psychology professor served on a CIA psychology
advisory committee and played at least a limited role in helping the agency
develop the so-called “enhanced interrogation” techniques (actually classified
as torture) post 9/11 program, according to an exhaustive new report commissioned by the American Psychological
Association. After the 9/11 terrorist
attacks, Joseph Matarazzo, former chair of the OHSU medical psychology
department, exhorted his fellow psychologists to use their expertise to help
the U.S. government force information out of detainees, according to the new
report. “In this environment, things are different, and the CIA is going to
need some help,” Matarazzo reportedly told another psychologist at a 2002
conference in Singapore, adding (almost in Dick Cheney-like words): “Things may get harsh. We may need to take the
gloves off.” (Recall
that former VP Dick Cheney once said (this from a NPR source): “We've got to spend time in the shadows. We have to work
toward the dark side, if you will.” I surmise
Cheney meant like Luke Skywalker’s father – words and intent, even if that
meant breaking the law and dragging the country into the sewer, which BTW is
did).
3. Psychologists and CIA Torture | July 10, 2015: A 542-page report concludes that prominent
psychologists worked closely with the CIA to blunt dissent inside the agency
over an interrogation program that is now known to have included torture. It
also finds that officials at the American Psychological Association (APA) colluded
with the Pentagon to make sure that the association's ethics policies did not
hinder the ability of psychologists to be involved in the interrogation
program.
Original Post Continues Here: Background: Abu Zubaydah was
arrested in Pakistan in March 2002. He has been in U.S. custody for more than
twelve years, four-and-a-half of them in the CIA secret prison network. He was
transferred among prisons in various countries as part of the U.S. rendition program.
During his time in CIA custody
Zubaydah was extensively interrogated. He was water-boarded 83 times and subjected to numerous other torture techniques
including forced nudity, sleep
deprivation, confinement in small dark boxes, deprivation of solid food, stress positions, and physical
assaults. While in CIA custody, Zubaydah lost his left eye. Videotapes of some
of Zubaydah's interrogations are amongst those destroyed by the CIA in 2005.
After Abu Zubaydah was captured, the plans originally
called for a joint FBI and CIA interrogation of him. However, two FBI agents, Ali Soufan and Steve Gaudin, arrived first at the black site in Thailand where Abu Zubaydah was
being held. Their interrogation started with standard interview techniques
and also included cleaning and dressing Abu Zubaydah's wounds. Ali Soufan
stated at the time "... that we kept him alive. It wasn't easy, he couldn't
drink, he had a fever. I was holding ice to his lips."
The two FBI
agents attempted to convince Abu Zubaydah that they knew of his activities in
languages he understood: English and Arabic. Both FBI agents believed they
were making good progress in gathering intelligence from Abu Zubaydah,
including the fact that he revealed the name and location of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, known as
"Mukhtar" (now called: KSM) to Abu Zubaydah, who was the mastermind of the
9/11 attacks and that American José
Padilla wanted to use a "dirty bomb" in a terror attack on New
York City.
Then a CIA interrogation team arrived a week or two later
after the FBI team, and they
concluded that Abu Zubaydah was holding back information and that harsher
techniques were necessary. The CIA team was led by CIA contractor and former
Air Force psychologist James
Mitchell, who ordered that Abu Zubaydah answer questions or face a gradual
increase in aggressive techniques (waterboarding at the time was the first).
In 2009, Soufan testified before Congress that his FBI team
was removed from Abu Zubaydah's interrogation multiple times, only to be asked
to return when the harsher interrogation tactics of the CIA proved
unsuccessful. Soufan was alarmed by the early CIA tactics, such as
enforced nudity, cold temperatures, and blaring loud rock music in Zubaydah's
cell. Soufan reported to his FBI superiors that the CIA's interrogation
constituted “borderline torture.”
He was particularly concerned about a coffin-like box he
discovered that had been built by the CIA interrogation team. He was so
angry he called the FBI assistant director for counter-terrorism, Pasquale
D'Amaro, and shouted, “I swear to God, I'm going to arrest these guys!” Afterward,
the two FBI agents were ordered to leave the facility by FBI Director Robert Mueller. Mr. Soufan left,
but Steve Gaudin stayed an additional few weeks and continued to participate in
the interrogation.
Now the result of all that based on these two stories: (1) from
the NY
Times editorial board here and an extensive
NY Times article here from a top notch reporter on this story (James Risen).
This NY Times summary (or bottom line if
you like) is spot on and I have said so for years: “The Obama administration has so far
refused to prosecute the torturers. As more evidence about this program comes
to light, that position becomes increasingly indefensible.”
A series of posts related to this subject follow further on this blog. Enjoy your research.
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